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SG2 vs ZDP-189: which Japanese knife steel should you actually buy?

SG2 is the goldilocks of high-performance cutlery steels: keen, tough enough, genuinely stainless, and in stock. ZDP-189 holds an edge far longer, but it is brittle, a beast to sharpen, and rotates in and out of stock. For almost every kitchen, buy the SG2 — ZDP-189 is a specialist's tool, never a first or second knife.
SG2
The one to actually buy: keen, tough enough, properly stainless, sharpenable — and in stock.
ZDP-189
The specialist's edge: extraordinary edge life and toothy grip, paid for in brittleness and brutal sharpening. Rotates in and out of stock.
PropertySG2ZDP-189WinsBasis
Carbon ~1.25-1.45%~3% ZDP-189 cited 1
Chromium ~14-15%~20% cited 1
Molybdenum ~2.3-3.3%~1-1.4% SG2 cited 2
Vanadium ~1.8-2.2% (hard V-carbides)~0.1% (no real V-carbide) SG2 cited 2
Cobalt nonenone cited 2
Working hardness (HRC) 62-6464-67 (often 66-67) ZDP-189 maker-stated in-house
Edge retention above VG-10, below the vanadium super-steelsCATRA ~162% of 440C; outlasts SG2 by a long way ZDP-189 cited 1
Toughness tougher (~6.5 ft-lbs Charpy at 60.7 HRC)much lower; chip-prone at 66-67 HRC SG2 cited 3
Corrosion resistance the more corrosion-resistant~20% Cr on paper, but ~3% C ties it up — Larrin Thomas measured only ~8.6% Cr in solution (near D2); reacts more than the number implies SG2 cited 4
Sharpening ease harder than VG-10 but workable; rewards diamond/ceramicnotably hard; wants diamonds; gives weird feedback on most stones SG2 reasoned in-house
Carbide structure powder, ~16.5% (point-counted); fine, with efficient hard vanadium-carbidepowder, ~30% (Larrin Thomas's Thermo-Calc estimate); all chromium-carbide, more and coarser — toothy cited 1
Typical price (210mm gyuto) ~A$363 (in stock)~A$559 (when carried; rotates, often out of stock) SG2 reasoned in-house

1Knife Steel Nerds — ZDP-189 & Cowry-X (Larrin Thomas)2Knife Steel Nerds — VG10 & Super Gold 2 (Larrin Thomas)3Knife Steel Nerds — metallurgist ratings (Larrin Thomas)4Knife Steel Nerds — corrosion vs hardness (Larrin Thomas)

1The verdict

SG2 is the goldilocks of high-performance cutlery steels — keen enough, tough enough, genuinely stainless, and easy enough to live with that you will actually enjoy owning it. ZDP-189 is the opposite kind of steel: it holds an edge far longer than SG2, but it is brittle at the hardness it is run, a beast to sharpen, and it reacts more than its chromium number suggests. We have carried both. If you are choosing, buy the SG2 — and I say that as someone who does not even own a ZDP-189 knife.

2At a glance

Two opposite temperaments: ZDP-189 wins edge retention by a wide margin, but SG2 takes toughness, corrosion and sharpening.Ratings 0–10. Knife Steel Nerds metallurgist ratings (Larrin Thomas): edge retention (CATRA), toughness (Charpy), corrosion, and a composition-derived sharpening-ease estimate. Edge retention 6 8.5 Toughness (working) 7 3.5 Corrosion 8.5 7 Sharpening ease 5 2.5 SG2 ZDP-189 scale 0–10
Two opposite temperaments: ZDP-189 wins edge retention by a wide margin, but SG2 takes toughness, corrosion and sharpening. Ratings 0–10. Knife Steel Nerds metallurgist ratings (Larrin Thomas): edge retention (CATRA), toughness (Charpy), corrosion, and a composition-derived sharpening-ease estimate.
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At a glance: SG2 vs ZDP-189
PropertySG2ZDP-189
Edge retention68.5
Toughness (working)73.5
Corrosion8.57
Sharpening ease52.5

Ratings 0–10. Knife Steel Nerds metallurgist ratings (Larrin Thomas): edge retention (CATRA), toughness (Charpy), corrosion, and a composition-derived sharpening-ease estimate.

Side by side across the four jobs that matter, these two steels could not be more different in temperament. ZDP-189 wins edge retention by a wide margin — it is one of the longest-lasting edges you can buy in a kitchen knife. But SG2 takes the other three: it is tougher, more corrosion-resistant, and far easier to sharpen. The bars below show the shape of it.

SG2 is the all-rounder you reach for every day. ZDP-189 is a single-purpose blade: maximum edge life, and you pay for it everywhere else.

3The spec sheet oversells ZDP-189

Here is the honest part: the spec sheet oversells ZDP-189 for most kitchens. On paper it is a ~3% carbon monster run to 64-67 HRC with roughly 30% carbide by volume — numbers that scream 'super steel.' And the edge retention is real: Knife Steel Nerds' CATRA testing puts it at about 162% of 440C, comfortably above SG2. But edge retention is only worth what you can actually use, and ZDP-189 asks for a level of sharpening skill and board discipline most home cooks do not have and do not want.

SG2, run at 62-64 HRC, gives up some of that raw edge life and hands you a knife you can sharpen on a weeknight and not think about. For the way most people actually cook, that trade is the whole ballgame.

4It was never only about the steel

As always, it was never only about the steel. Heat-treat and grind decide more about how a knife cuts than the grade on the box — and ZDP-189 is unusually sensitive to both. Run a touch too hard, ground a touch too thin, and it chips; run well, by a maker who knows it, and it earns its reputation — though it still demands respect. SG2 is far more forgiving of the maker, and of you.

So read hardness as a clue, not a verdict. HRC is the Rockwell number: higher means the steel resists denting and holds a crisp apex longer, but also that it is less forgiving and harder to sharpen. ZDP-189's 64-67 HRC is near the top of what is sane in a kitchen knife; SG2's 62-64 HRC sits in the sweet spot where keen still meets livable.

5Two kinds of sharp

There are two kinds of sharp, and this pair is the cleanest illustration of it in our whole range. SG2's edge is keen and clean — its fine vanadium carbides take a refined apex that push-cuts beautifully through an onion or the skin of a tomato. ZDP-189's edge is toothy: its much larger volume of coarse chromium carbide gives a micro-serrated bite that grips and saws through fibrous material, and keeps gripping long after a finer edge would have gone smooth.

Neither is 'sharper' in any absolute sense. SG2 is the keen push-cutter; ZDP-189 is the toothy, long-lasting saw. Which you want depends entirely on what — and how much — you cut.

6The carbide story

The same idea, two extremes: SG2 keeps its carbide fine and even; ZDP-189 packs in far more, coarser chromium-carbide.Schematic illustration, not a micrograph — the contrast (fine and even vs coarse and abundant) follows the metallurgy described by Knife Steel Nerds (Larrin Thomas). SG2 — fine PM carbide fine, even, mixed Cr + V ZDP-189 — coarse, abundant carbide coarser, far more, all Cr
The same idea, two extremes: SG2 keeps its carbide fine and even; ZDP-189 packs in far more, coarser chromium-carbide. Schematic illustration, not a micrograph — the contrast (fine and even vs coarse and abundant) follows the metallurgy described by Knife Steel Nerds (Larrin Thomas).
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Carbide structure — schematic
StructureCarbide sizeDistribution
SG2 — fine PM carbidefine, roundeven, uniform
ZDP-189 — coarse, abundant carbideoccasional largeuneven, clumped

Schematic illustration, not a micrograph — the contrast (fine and even vs coarse and abundant) follows the metallurgy described by Knife Steel Nerds (Larrin Thomas).

Close to double the carbide, all of it coarse chromium-carbide — that is ZDP-189's toothy, long-lasting and brittle edge.Carbide volume fraction (Knife Steel Nerds, Larrin Thomas): SG2 ~16.5% point-counted, ZDP-189 ~30% by Thermo-Calc estimate. Different methods, but close to a 2x gap, and ZDP-189's is overwhelmingly coarse chromium-carbide.0%5%10%15%20%25%30%35%SG2SG2: 16.5% fine Cr + V-carbide16.5% · fine Cr + V-carbideZDP-189ZDP-189: 30% all coarse Cr-carbide30% · all coarse Cr-carbide
Close to double the carbide, all of it coarse chromium-carbide — that is ZDP-189's toothy, long-lasting and brittle edge. Carbide volume fraction (Knife Steel Nerds, Larrin Thomas): SG2 ~16.5% point-counted, ZDP-189 ~30% by Thermo-Calc estimate. Different methods, but close to a 2x gap, and ZDP-189's is overwhelmingly coarse chromium-carbide.
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Total carbide volume
SteelTotal carbide volumeCarbide type
SG216.5%fine Cr + V-carbide
ZDP-18930%all coarse Cr-carbide

Carbide volume fraction (Knife Steel Nerds, Larrin Thomas): SG2 ~16.5% point-counted, ZDP-189 ~30% by Thermo-Calc estimate. Different methods, but close to a 2x gap, and ZDP-189's is overwhelmingly coarse chromium-carbide.

The carbide story is where these two steels really part ways, and it is the honest explanation for everything above. Carbides are the hard particles locked in the steel that do the actual wearing; how much you have, how big they are, and what they are made of together set edge retention, toughness, and how the edge feels. By Knife Steel Nerds' numbers, SG2 carries about 16.5% carbide by volume (point-counted), while Larrin Thomas's Thermo-Calc estimate puts ZDP-189 around 30% — close to double. The two figures come from different methods, but both are his, and the gap is real.

But it is not just more — it is a different kind. SG2's carbide is a fine, even powder-metallurgy mix of chromium-carbide plus a small fraction of very hard vanadium-carbide. ZDP-189's is overwhelmingly chromium-carbide, and there is so much of it that the particles run larger and coarser. That coarse, abundant carbide is exactly what gives ZDP-189 its toothy, long-lasting grip — and exactly what makes it brittle and a nightmare on a stone. More carbide is not simply 'better'; it is a trade, and SG2 sits on the side of that trade most cooks should want. The bars and the schematic below break it down.

7Where they land against the field

ZDP-189 lands in a lonely corner — very hard, and notably low on toughness — while SG2 lives where usable kitchen steels do.Each point is a steel at typical working hardness. Toughness = KSN 0–10 metallurgist rating; hardness = K&S catalogue HRC midpoint. On toughness the gap is a chasm, not a step. 5661660246810 Hardness (HRC, working) Toughness (0–10) SG2ZDP-189VG-10GinsanWhite #2Aogami SuperHAP40ApexUltra
ZDP-189 lands in a lonely corner — very hard, and notably low on toughness — while SG2 lives where usable kitchen steels do. Each point is a steel at typical working hardness. Toughness = KSN 0–10 metallurgist rating; hardness = K&S catalogue HRC midpoint. On toughness the gap is a chasm, not a step.
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Hardness (HRC, working) vs Toughness (0–10)
SteelHardness (HRC, working)Toughness (0–10)
SG2637
ZDP-18964.53.5
VG-10607.5
Ginsan616.5
White #2626.5
Aogami Super63.54.5
HAP40664.5
ApexUltra67.57

Each point is a steel at typical working hardness. Toughness = KSN 0–10 metallurgist rating; hardness = K&S catalogue HRC midpoint. On toughness the gap is a chasm, not a step.

Plot both on the map metallurgists use — hardness against toughness, with the rest of the field around them — and ZDP-189 lands in a lonely corner: very hard, and notably low on toughness. SG2 sits where most fine Japanese kitchen steels live: hard enough to hold a keen edge, tough enough to survive a real kitchen. The distance between them is not a step; on toughness it is a chasm. That picture, more than any single spec, is why we steer almost everyone to SG2.

8What sharpening day feels like

Sharpening day is where my own bias shows, so I will be blunt: I do not own a ZDP-189 knife, and I avoid sharpening one whenever I can. It is that demanding. The same coarse chromium-carbide that makes the edge last makes it fight the stone — it wants diamond plates, it is slow to raise a burr, and it gives weird, vague feedback on most waterstones, so you are never quite sure you have got it. Run it to a true 66-67 HRC and one careless pass can chip the apex you just spent twenty minutes chasing.

SG2 is harder than a basic stainless like VG-10, no question — it rewards a decent diamond or ceramic stone and a little technique. But it responds, it tells you what it is doing, and a patient home cook can absolutely keep it sharp. If ZDP-189's sharpening sounds like a chore, that is because it is one — and it is why, if you would rather not, K&S sharpens and re-profiles both steels in-store.

9The chipping question

The chipping question all but decides this one. ZDP-189 is run to 64-67 HRC — often right at the top, 66-67 — and with about 30% coarse carbide it is genuinely brittle. It does not forgive a chicken bone, a frozen edge, a hard cutting board, or a careless twist; chefs who run it accept the occasional chip as the cost of the edge. SG2, tougher to begin with and run a notch softer at 62-64 HRC, is far more relaxed — still a thin Japanese edge, still no pry bar, but much less likely to surprise you.

If you, or your kitchen, are at all heavy-handed, that settles it: SG2. ZDP-189 belongs with a cook who already treats knives gently and knows exactly what they are holding.

10The 20% chromium myth

Now the myth worth busting, because the spec sheet is genuinely misleading here. ZDP-189 lists around 20% chromium — higher than SG2's ~14-15% — and people read that as 'more stainless.' It is not. ZDP-189's roughly 3% carbon is so high that it pulls most of that chromium out of the steel and locks it into chromium-carbides. Only the chromium left dissolved in the matrix actually resists rust, and there is not much: Thermo-Calc modelling puts it near 6.5%, and when Larrin Thomas measured it directly he got 8.6% — roughly the same as D2, a steel most cooks would never call stainless. SG2's chromium mostly stays where it counts.

So in real-world use SG2 is the more corrosion-resistant of the two, and ZDP-189 will spot and react more readily than its big number suggests — fine with normal care and prompt drying, but not the fortress '20%' implies. As I put it to customers: ZDP-189 is really just stainLESS, not stainPROOF. A big chromium number on the label, far less of it actually doing the job.

11Who should buy which

More edge life for more money — and, off the chart, far more maintenance and far less of the time actually in stock.Price = average 210mm gyuto at K&S (SG2 in stock; ZDP-189 when carried — it rotates). Edge retention = KSN 0–10 rating. 0246810 Price — std 210mm gyuto (A$) Edge retention (0–10) SG2 · A$363ZDP-189 · A$559
More edge life for more money — and, off the chart, far more maintenance and far less of the time actually in stock. Price = average 210mm gyuto at K&S (SG2 in stock; ZDP-189 when carried — it rotates). Edge retention = KSN 0–10 rating.
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Price vs edge retention
SteelPrice (210mm gyuto)Edge retention
SG2A$3636
ZDP-189A$5598.5

Price = average 210mm gyuto at K&S (SG2 in stock; ZDP-189 when carried — it rotates). Edge retention = KSN 0–10 rating.

Buy SG2 if you want one knife that does everything well: a keen, clean edge, enough toughness to survive a normal kitchen, real stainlessness, sharpening you can actually manage — and, not nothing, it is in stock at around A$363 for a 210mm gyuto. For the overwhelming majority of cooks this is simply the right answer, and it is the one I would put in my own kitchen.

ZDP-189 is a specialist's tool, and I will name the cook it is for: a high-volume professional doing a lot of protein work — breaking down meat and tendon for hours — who sharpens well, treats an edge gently, and genuinely values an edge that outlasts SG2 by a long way. That toothy, abundant-carbide edge grips fibrous protein and keeps going where a finer edge fades. When we carry it, a comparable 210mm gyuto runs around A$559. The chart shows the trade: more edge life, more money, and — off the chart — far more maintenance.

And if it is your first or second Japanese knife: it is not this. ZDP-189 is never a sensible first knife, and not even a second. You will spend more, struggle to sharpen it, and most likely chip it while you are still learning — and tastes shift before you have worn out a first knife anyway. Start with SG2 (or honestly, a simple VG-10), learn the stone, and come back for the exotic steel when you actually know you want it.

12Living with it in Australia

Living with either comes down to one honest rule: both are sold as stainless, but neither is stain-proof — and ZDP-189 barely clears the bar. SG2's chromium mostly stays free in the steel, so with a rinse and a dry it shrugs off a normal kitchen. ZDP-189, with most of its chromium tied up in carbide, will spot and even lightly rust if you leave it wet, leave acidic food on the edge, or stack it damp — more readily than its 20% chromium number would ever suggest.

The care is simple for both, and matters more for ZDP-189: rinse and dry the blade right after use, never leave it in the sink or the dish rack, keep it dry, and never put either in a dishwasher. And when a ZDP-189 edge finally goes — or chips — bring it to us rather than fighting it on the wrong stone; K&S sharpens and re-profiles both steels in-store.

13Methodology & sources

Written by James Zhang for Knives & Stones. Disclosure: we sell SG2 and carry ZDP-189 when it is in stock — and we still say buy the cheaper, easier one for almost every kitchen, because that is the honest answer.

How to read our claims: cited means a number comes from published testing — here, Knife Steel Nerds and Dr. Larrin Thomas's measured data on Super Gold 2 and ZDP-189, including CATRA edge-retention and point-counted carbide volumes; reasoned means it follows from composition and our bench experience; maker-stated means the manufacturer's hardness specification, which varies by batch. Edge retention here is cited (ZDP-189 at about 162% of 440C — a single CATRA result, per Larrin Thomas); hardness is maker-stated; the carbide figures are SG2 ~16.5% (point-counted) versus ZDP-189 ~30% (Larrin Thomas's Thermo-Calc estimate) — different methods, but both his, and close to a 2x gap; prices are the average 210mm gyuto we stock (SG2) or carry when in stock (ZDP-189), as of June 2026.

Primary sources: Knife Steel Nerds, “VG10 and Super Gold 2” and “ZDP-189 and Cowry-X” by Larrin Thomas. Reviewed June 2026.

Frequently asked questions

Should I buy SG2 or ZDP-189?

For almost every kitchen, SG2. It is keen, tough enough, genuinely stainless, sharpenable, and in stock. ZDP-189 holds an edge far longer but is brittle, very hard to sharpen, and rotates in and out of stock — it is a specialist's steel, not a first or second knife.

Is ZDP-189 stainless? Will it rust?

Barely. It is sold as stainless and lists around 20% chromium, but its very high carbon locks most of that chromium into carbides — Larrin Thomas measured only about 8.6% actually in solution, close to D2, a steel most cooks call non-stainless. So it reacts more than its number suggests. It is really stainLESS, not stainPROOF: fine with prompt drying, but dry it well and never leave it wet.

Does ZDP-189 really hold an edge longer than SG2?

Yes, by a long way. Knife Steel Nerds' CATRA testing puts ZDP-189 at about 162% of 440C, comfortably above SG2. For high-volume protein work that edge life is genuinely useful — but most home cooks never use it before the next sharpen.

Why is ZDP-189 so hard to sharpen?

Its roughly 30% coarse chromium-carbide and 64-67 HRC fight the stone. It wants diamond plates, is slow to raise a burr, and gives vague feedback on most waterstones. SG2 is harder than basic stainless but far more responsive — a patient home cook can keep it sharp.

Is ZDP-189 a good first Japanese knife?

No — and not a good second one either. It is expensive, easy to chip while you are learning, and hard to sharpen. Start with SG2 or a simple VG-10, learn the stone, and come back for ZDP-189 only once you know you want a long-lasting, toothy edge and can look after it.

Charts are real SVG with extractable data tables. Prices and stock in the rail are live; ZDP-189 rotates in and out of stock. Carbide figures are Knife Steel Nerds (Larrin Thomas): SG2 point-counted, ZDP-189 a Thermo-Calc estimate.